the doll games
Yes. And so Ive had to realize other parts of myself.
You dont want to be Good B*****, thats clear. So its between Bad B***** and Ken as your role model!
And I think Ive somehow formed into the combination of the two: Lola Pound.
Lola Pound came out when I was visiting that girl in San Francisco, and I was just like [stupid Ken voice] "Uuuh" and then all of a sudden
[Stupid Ken voice] "Hello, my legs will only move in two dimensions."
[Stupid ken voice] "Its OK, its all right." And then I had this tiny little phone book and all of a sudden I said, Oh, it needs a name. It said: Name. And I put "Lola... Pound". And I was like, Strange. So I was there in San Francisco going through this kind of horrible encounter and I keep looking at Lola Pound when I bring out my phone book and Im just like, Lola Pound, Lola Pound. And I start realizing that Lola Pound has this incredible personality that wants to, like Lola Pound's already THERE somewhere, and Im like, Oh, Lola Pound! And then I was talking to this girl, and I was being Ken, you know, standing in the middle of her room staring at the wall, with kind of a half smile on my face not knowing what to do, and she walks by and shes like, "Are you OK," and I say, [small meek voice] "Oh yeah." [Laughs.] Poor Ken is stunned.
[Stupid Ken voice] "Yeah, Im fine."
And then Im
[Stupid Ken voice] "Sure B*****, Im OK."
Totally! And shes like, "I am Bad B***** and you are a bore, get out of my house." I mean she didnt actually say that, but... And then were talking later, I was lying on her floor, and I was being very nice and she was being kind of mean or distant or just saying the negative to everything I said positive, and all of a sudden Lola Pound says, [disgusted tone] Go to bed. Shes like, Im sick of this, go to bed. And I said, "Im going to bed." And that girl was like "Oh," [sweet mollifying noises]and it just changed the energy entirely in the room. And I was like, Lola Pound is on my side, I like this! And thats actually when I started this band with Serge and Mark; Lola Pound was up, she was singingI mean, when I say "she" Im making myself sound
Sound like an insane person.
No, not insane! But Im a great fan of multiplicity and Ive done my own exploration of itbut I dont think the word is multiplicity. I think theres many parts to everybody, or at least theres many parts to me, and Lola Pound was like inspiration in that, so we decided to call ourselves Lola Pound and the Loose Boys. So thats a success story from what we were talking about!
That's great.Now earlier you were saying that the actual physical bodies of the dolls really affected how you felt about them. How did you feel about the weird B***** shape, the weird boobs, and the feet that couldnt go flat...?
Definitely it was fun to stick B*****s in dirt, so their feet would disappear, they were the perfect little pointer things.
Yeah, thats one thing I always thought about B*****, that she was like a weird tool. Like a scepter, or something to prod with.
The breastsyou know, the breasts were definitely weird, they were more like something you knocked on things.
They were hard and sort of one thing.
But I think I was kind of interested in them. Like, What are they? What do they represent? Not that I had that word at the time.
We didnt have B*****s, because my parents thought that they were sexist, so we had these flat-chested dolls, but at a certain point we made these breasts out of clay and stuck them on the dolls, so that they could be sexualized.
It was also funny, because when they had sex, the breasts would get all misshapen, or they would come off, or they would get little bits of rug and cat hair in them, so we were constantly having to rebuild the breasts, there was this great attention to the shape of the breast, although they never looked right, because I dont think we quite got the idea of the breast. They were too round and symmetrical, they didnt actually
They didnt hang.
come to a point or hang or anything. We didnt understand anything about breasts until we had some.
Maybe thats why men, who make fake breasts, make them look very unnatural.
Yeah, like drag queens, their breasts are always like under their chin.
I know. "Higher the better, higher the better, higher the better."